That was quite fun, doing scenes in French. I did do a film that I refer to as 'The Unpronouncable' by a guy named Yvan Attal with Charlotte Gainsbourg. Do you have any plans to do a film there?ĭepp: Well, as I was saying earlier, my dance card is a little bit thick at the moment, it's a little bit full but I do have plans one day to do more work in France. Question: I'm surprised you've lived in France for so long and haven't done a movie there. But they today they're infinitely more sort of few and far between in my opinion. You've got Tom Waits and you had a Hunter Thompson and you've got a Bob Dylan. Back then, man, you had Cab Calloway and you had Harry The Hipster Gibson and you had Mez Mezzrow. Most kids dress like the other kid down the street and they all talk with a kind of lingo. Today it seems like people are less individual, a lot less individual than they were. I think the way we are today.I suppose the easiest way to say it is that they were individuals back then. Whether you're talking about fashion or work and art, in any case whatever guys did, whatever women did there was a very strong sense of who was who and what was what. Can you talk about what you mean by that? And how involved are you in the community you live in France?ĭepp: Well, not necessarily the area, but that time. ![]() ![]() Question: You mentioned earlier that the area that Dillinger lived in was a place where men were still men. Ever since I suppose somewhere around 1986 I started to take from the rich. I had a lot of somewhat unpleasant gigs for a time there. I went into sewers, down into sewer lines. I started out printing silk screen t-shirts. He's like a mood ring I suppose.ĭepp: That's what I've been doing for twenty five years. There's a lot of color and brightness and then de-saturation in The Hatter. You could've put them right together and they were pretty darn close. I made my little weird drawings and water colors and brought them to Tim and he brought me his weird little drawings and water colors and they were not dissimilar. Then it was just kind of what I saw and what I thought the guy should look like. So I found out what the M was and why they went nuts. There was a reason for that and the reason for that was mercury poisoning. There are little mysteries, little clues in the book that I found fascinating that were keys to at least my understanding of the Mad Hatter, like him saying, 'I'm investigating that begin with the letter M.' That was huge for me because when you do a little digging you realize you're talking about a hatter, a man who made hats and if you go back and look at some of the historical hatters there's that term that this guy or that guy is as mad as a hatter. Question: What kind of research did you for your role in 'Alice in Wonderland'? Did you use the book or bring something outside of that to the character?ĭepp: Well, certainly the book. He moved forward constantly and never went back. He was kind of the ultimate existential figure. He knew that he had a very short period of time to deal with and he'd made peace with that. His situation was infinitely more grave than mine. Although, with Dillinger, he knew that the clock was ticking. Get off the ride.' I think that's what Dillinger was doing. You're handed the ball and you go as far as you can go until somebody says, 'Alright, kid. ![]() That's not any different than what happened to me a very long time ago. John Dillinger, I think just like any red blooded American, was handed the ball and he ran with it. ![]() The alternative is a real drag, that if there's no attention well then the job goes away, doesn't it. It's a certain amount of attention that I suppose goes along with it. Then there's this other stuff that goes along with it that I don't think I will ever understand, but I do appreciate as a part of the gig. Have you made any new friends?ĭepp: Well, I mean, the thing I'm infinitely more comfortable with is the process and the effort of making the character and the collaborative process. You got to wear a lot of them in this movie. Question: You've talked before about hats, how much you appreciate them and they become friends. They don't get to get daddy.daddy walks through Disneyland with them and things get weird at the moment. I'd let them experience that kind of thing. I'd go on every ride and I'd walk through Disneyland with my kids. Off the top of my head, where I could walk around and be completely anonymous? I'd walk through Disneyland with my kids. Question: If you had the opportunity to walk around wherever without being noticed where would you go?ĭepp: Ooh, wow. Question: You're one of the most wanted actors in the world. Question: The scene where Dillinger walked into the police station, the most wanted man in America at the time, and went completely unnoticed, is that true?ĭepp: Well, that's not my answer.
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